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Post by seanambler on Jan 25, 2009 18:55:58 GMT -5
Let's see if the uni actually sticks to there promises. I feel it was a mistake to stop occupying before we got a statement - I feel their threat of tribunals was empty considering the numbers involved and that they just used it as a strategy to get us to end the occupation.
If they don't stick to what they've promised we have to call a meeting to discuss re-occupation where a small committee decides the location and time (university security will probably try to spy on the meeting somehow, makes sense for them to do so).
I like Cambridge's style of negotation - only allowing it in front of a meeting of everyone involved in the occupation. This is a truely democratic way of doing things.
Further an important lesson for next time is the need to secure access in and out - we let the security close and lock the front gates last time (why didn't people in the passageway stand up to them?). Access is important if we are going to stay there for a long time or people will leave and won't be able to get back in (if people need to go to lectures,tutorials,etc). Most people also were not prepared to confront security to ask them to open the gates or to take the keys off them. We need those who are prepared to confront to form a occupation defence squad under the control of the whole occupation.
Yet another lesson in my view is that we need to have mass meetings from the start - this allows us to make very clear what we are doing, what the essential next tasks are, etc. If we had done this we would probably have been able to secure access and take over much more of the building including the large meeting room upstairs.
I think we also need to consider non-university targets, for instance if the BBC have an office in Oxford.
I'm sure we can discuss this in full when we have our next meeting which we should call as soon as the university issues the statement it is supposed to be issuing.
Anyway Thursday was a great day in Oxford for both the Palestine Solidarity movement and the Student Movement in general. We should not stop here - march forward comrades!
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Post by cm on Jan 26, 2009 22:13:29 GMT -5
Yep, I felt the same... turned up to support the occupation only to find out it was about to end! Some of the demands were met, but most were fudged. I don't want to belittle what has been achieved but I feel it would be more honest to describe it as a 'partial victory': The six demands were: Scholarships: Unclear whether they have agreed to set these up or merely 'look into it' (which means forget about it when they think people have forgotten. Drop arms investments: No. They'll 'consider it' (see above). Supplies to Gaza: Agreed, but no details to allow us to judge if this is significant or not. Statement: If they have issued a statement, they're not going out of their way to draw attention to it; it's not listed on their press releases page: www.ox.ac.uk/media/index.htmlDrop Peres lectures: No. They say it needs to be taken up with Balliol. No repercussions: This was announced on the night as something that had been acheived, but then I overheard people discussing £20 fines. I'd love to be proved wrong but to my eyes it looks like hardly any of these demands has actually been met in a meaningful way. Can anyone clarify any of the above? ie: -Do we have a clear commitment from them to provide scholarships, or only a vague promise to look into it? -What is the extent of the direct aid/supplies being sent to Gaza? -Where is the full text of the statement, and in what ways have the university publicised it? -Have there truly been no repercussions, or have some students been fined or penalised? Cheers, and sorry for being a tad cynical - I still think the fact that you took a stand at all is brilliant! |
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Post by stephen hoffman on Jan 29, 2009 16:43:57 GMT -5
what the hell is wrong with Shimon Peres this is a guy who has constantly been pro peace ie the oslo accords a guy who has his own peace centre a guy who believes in the two state solution.
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Post by oxoc on Jan 30, 2009 18:39:48 GMT -5
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